Is TinyDetails.com (Tiny Details) A Scam?
Tiny Details.com is a company that specializes in giving homeworkers the opportunity to assemble doll house miniatures The miniatures produced must pass their rigorous standards. I’ve heard some minor complaints about this company so I decided to write this review to see if we can get to the root of some of these claims. That being said I’ve also read a lot of complaints about bigger companies like Microsoft, Paypal and Disney, so I wanted to be objective when approaching this review and you should be as well.
I know from first hand experience how people are quick to call any company a scam or fraud and many times it’s because of misunderstanding or lack of comprehension of the given opportunity.
By definition the assembly of miniatures is not a very easy task. I encourage you to visit a hobby shop and look at the details that go into some higher end doll houses. Tiny Details is about producing high end miniature products so they can resell at a profit so it’s in their best interest as a business to only accept quality work from their home assembly workers.
From what I’ve gathered, the problem is that some of the work at home assembly workers and TinyDetails.com don’t see eye to eye on what is deemed a quality product. This is where the accusations of being a scam come in.
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I’ve personally contacted the owner Kris on some occasions where disputes were brought to my attention and Kris has always been quick to respond and resolve any issue that came up. So it’s hard for me to swallow Tiny Details as being a scam. For me a scam is a company that is totally unresponsive and disappears when faced with obstacles. Again based on my personal experience that’s not the case.
You should avoid Tiny Details if you lack attention to detail, can’t follow directions and/or are unsure about working with miniatures. The assembly work is difficult and not for the faint of heart. However if you are detail oriented person, love working with your hands and don’t mind a challenge then this may be the company for you.
Unlike many work at home companies, they don’t hide behind an email address. You can actually pick the phone and call them. I’d like to see you do that with many of the so called legitimate work at home companies out there. So No I don’t think that Tiny Details is a scam! But it’s not an easy way to make money either. You really need to have the skills to do the job to be successful. So keep that in mind. I think the people that called this company a scam didn’t and that’s why they were disappointed with this legitimate opportunity.
But with that said, if the reports and complaints worry you, then I would suggest trying some of the other ways to make money as described in our articles. Many of our loyal subscribers are finding success doing so. For instance I was able to make $150 in an hour just for giving my "two cents". And I’m pretty sure that would never be possible with assembling trinkets.
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From the information I have gathered, Tiny Details is a scam. You order a package of supplies from them and pay a $55.00 “deposit”. If you assemble the required number of pieces (from 20 to 100) and send the finished product in to Tiny Details, they inspect them and, if they feel the product is up to their standards, they will send you your depoist back and pay you for the finished product ($50.00 to $200.00). The problem is that they send you materials that are cheep and very hard to work with, they don’t send you clear directions, and the product is so small and hard to make, that most people aren’t even able to finish. When you send in your finished product, they send it back to you, always saying there is something wrong. I have even run into some people who say that the send in a “sample” of their work, as Tiny Details suggests to see if your product matches their standards before you complete the whole batch, and they almost always reject it, even if you were to send in the original “finished sample” they sent you in the first place. I know people want to believe they can make money at home this way, but it is a scam. Some would argue that it is not a scam, because if you manage to actually finish the products and get the company to accept them, then they may pay you and keep their promise. It is in fact a scam because they make most of their money off of the people who fail to complete the task up to their “standards”. Their whole business structure would fall apart if they didn’t continue to make money off of all of the people who fail to meet their standards. If you don’t believe me, check out some of the following links or google “Tiny Details scam” and see for yourself.
Replyhttp://search.buffalo.bbb.org/codbrep.html?ID=17001857
http://www.projectparadox.com/personal/journal/tiny-details.php
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/187/ripoff0187681.htm
http://www.wahm.com/boards/Forum14/HTML/000819.html
Scam? Don’t know. But I what can you say for a company who can’t keep track of what they receive from their workers? Or the fact that they obviously lied to the BBB. See my story about Tiny Details at http://www.realworkrealpay.blogspot.com
ReplyHi Trica,
Thanks for your comments. It’s real troubling to hear these stories.
ReplyI have heard about this particular work at home opportunity on several occasions. I think it is really difficult to work for some of this “crafting” type opportunities because you may think your crafted item is done and looks perfect, and then you send it for approval and it is rejected.
ReplyI always tend to do a search and see if these type of opportunities are scams or if there are alot of poor reviews before thinking about applying.
Hi…I find this odd. I’ve been workin with Tiny Details now for more than four years. I’ve made books for them, a few miniature Christmas boxes, a set of Bibles, and the tinsle box. The only thing I’ve tried that I couldn’t make was the silverware boxes. They were too hard for me. I called and they were nice enough to change the kit for something else. Sometimes I’ve had to call to push them to get my reviews and checks done fast, but they always get done. It’s not for everyone–some of the stuff is small.
ReplyHi Marcia,
Thanks for sharing your perspective. It’s always good to have both sides of the story to give everyone a full perspective on various opportunities.
Eddy
ReplyThis company is absolutly running a scam. I ordered a kit from them the first week of May 2008. By June I still had not recieved my kit. I called 6 times and left 3 messages. I never recieved a call back and could not get a hold of a live person. I complained to the BBB. One week after my complaint I recieved my kit and a response that they had never received any of my messages. I completed the kit within a week and sent in the sample and the kit. They both reached the company within 5 days of delivery, according to USPS. The sample passed inspection, but the kit did not. It took them another month to return my kit to me. I fixed the problems they claimed to have found and sent the kit back within a couple days. It has now been two months and I still have not recieved any payment. I call twice a week every week and when I actually get a live person they assure me the kit will be inspected that day. When I called today the receptionist told me that the kit was deemed unsatisfactory again. I have a 4.0 GPA in college and I am majoring in art. I think that I pay “close attention to details”. These people will never send me the money they owe me without intercession from the BBB or the equivalent. If you do not believe me just google their name and pages of complaints pop up. I wish I had done that before I began business with them.
ReplyHi Shamina,
Thanks for sharing your experience as well.
Eddy
ReplyThat’s strange. I made 2 phone calls to them and although i had to leave a message, Dixie (the lady who works the customer service desk) called me back in less than a hour to speak with me.
Perhaps we are too quick to judge, perhaps not… I’ll keep you posted.
ReplyI looked at the site carefully, to be honest I’m keen to do the wood working bits. The $55 deposit is what I’m hesitating on though, as you read that’s per kit that’s out, so if I want to be sent 3 kits at the same time (to maximize production times) then I shell out $165? When my final return of investment is only $150- 300? That’s about average right, $50-200 per kit return when it passes inspection? It tells you in the site that your average hourly wage is around the $10 range. Lol, I’m keen to do it but if and when I do it’ll only be the woodworking ones and only as an “Extra” income Was kinda cool to read what every one had to say.
ReplyOk, I did this a few years ago. I actualy sent the money in and got my kit. I was suppose to cut like 100 decks of doll house tarot cards out for $50 and a new kit. The kit came…. I got 50 sheets of paper with the cards printed on them… a exacto knife and a bunch of plastic baggies that I was to staple shut. Not a lot for $50! So I started to the task at hand … it took me FOREVER to cut these out…. not worth .50 cents I was to be paid so…. I took the kit cut out a couple of sets and sold them on e-bay for $5.00…. people went nuts for these. I would have done it again but I didn’t feel that I should support tiny details any more. They make money because they know the work doesn’t = the effort and they can bank on people not completing the kits.
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ReplyI ordered 2 kits from Tiny Details. I paid for priority shipping. They told me (by email)that they mailed the package and gave me a tracking number. I have tried to track the number and the post office says that they have been notified of a mailing but the package had not actually been mailed. Now Tiny Details has blocked my email. I will have to try to call on Monday. This is not fun and I need the money or I would not have done it. I believe that it is a scam and I will do everything possible to get my money back.
ReplyHi Sherry,
I’m sorry to hear about this. Definitely give them a call on Monday and let me know what they say.
ReplyThanks for your concern. I finally recieved my package from Tiny Details. It took a long time. Maybe I can settle down and do the work and not get so excited since I know how long it takes to come mail. Thanks, I will let you know how the remainig work goes. Wish me luck! Sherry
Reply@Marcia:Dear marcia I have just sent for a starter kit from tiny details (the books) to give them a try.I am very good at crafts and luckly I have small hands hopfully this will come in handy.Are you still working for them? I would love to hear
Replymore about your experence with them.
COMPLETE SCAM!–STAY AWAY
Things went great at first, was paid in a timely manner for the first few projects, then came project #4 and nothing but trouble getting paid.
One excuse after another, nothing but lies when on the rare occasion they did answer the phone or bother to return a call.
I only finally got my money when I threatened to show up at their store (only about 5 hours away from me), beat the ever-loving crap out of them, tie them up and torch the place after emptying the cash drawer–got my check two days later, yes they over-nighted it; but the fact remains it took about 4 weeks and tons of phone calls.
ReplyI sent 55.00 on cotober 4 and they didn’t send me anything until one month later and then the kit was wrong the book i ordered was different and the pages were wrong and defective. this is a lot of people who were defrauded and they have another company called christian miniatures they have made a lot of money off of honest people…they shall reap what they sow…
ReplyI have been working with Tiny Details for several months now. While they are not a scam but their items are deffinately not easy. So far, both of my packets have been returned to me as unexceptable even though I got a sample to pass. I first tried the Chineese Boxes and those were near impossible! The sample they sent was was absolutely perfect and no matter how hard I tried I couldn’t get mine to look like theirs. I called them and they were nice enough to send me a replacement packet of books to do instead. Those are hard too! They are looking for absolutely perfect quality. When I called them about it they replied that they have several workers that are able to make perfect items so it’s what they expect from everyone. I understand this so I really can’t complain too much. The sample of the book they sent was again, absolutely perfect. When I couldn’t get my books to meat their standards they again sent me a replacement kit of calendars. Now there’s something I think I can do! I finished the kit pretty fast and have already sent it back to Tiny Details. Hopefully it will pass. So to wrap things up…Tiny Details is not a scam but they are EXTREMELY picky about accepting items. They are hard to get ahold of but just keep calling them. I have left messages before and about 1 out of 4 times I get a call back. They are there but they’ve explained to me that they don’t have very many employees and are pretty busy. Evertime I call I speak to the same woman so I know they are a small company.
ReplyHey Stacey,
Thanks for sharing your opinion about TinyDetails. I must say you’ve provided one of the most balanced comment regarding this company that I’ve seen in a while and I applaud you for that. Thanks so much for sharing your experience. I think it’s going to help a lot of folks.
ReplyFollowup: I called Tiny Details this morning in regards to the calendars I had completed and sent back to them earlier this month. I was told that they had been approved by the inspectors and they were sitting on the owner’s desk awaiting him to sign and mail my check! They appologized for taking so long but explained that they are extremely busy during the holidays. I can understand this. I’m just thrilled they finally accepted something from me and I’m finally going to get my money! If anyone wants to start working for Tiny Details then I recomend they start with the calendars. I found them real easy. Tiny Details website says the books are a good beginers item but I had a lot of trouble with them. The Victorian Calling Cards are also not as easy as it would seem…TRY THE CALENDARS!!!
ReplyStacey,
Thanks for the follow up and advice!
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